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Saturday, January 28, 2006

Question of the Day: Day 28

If someone "borrows" without permission is that the same thing as stealing?
Have you done it or had it done to you and how did that turn out?

12 Comments:

Blogger Iain Cameron said...

If someone borrows something from you without permission, it is stealing. No-one, not even a best friend, has the right to take something from you and use it without your knowledge and permssion. It's only fair.

1/28/2006 9:39 AM  
Blogger winter said...

I think that borrowing without permission is stealing.

1/28/2006 9:41 AM  
Blogger b said...

Borrowing is taking something with permission, and with terms of how, and how long that thing will be used. If there is not permission given, or if the terms are violated, then it's stealing - both in the letter and the spirit of whatever law is considered.

I have stolen things in my life - I have paid for some of these with money, and some with guilt and shame - but, most importantly, I have learned that stealing hurts people.

I have had a serious problem with my children, of late, and their willingness to pay each other back for offenses by stealing from one another. It's a real problem. I've tried to tell them that stealing, and being stolen from, is something that hangs on in memory for a long time.

1/28/2006 10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It depends...there are things in my family that i could take if I really needed to and there wouldn't be much fus. Gardening gloves, concert bow ties that kind of thing. Different is things that aren't so comunal; peeps don't like that. I wouldn't mind so much if someone took some of my things, but others are different. eg if a friend needed to borrow a pen and used mine cos my bag was lying around, I wouldn't mind. But it only works between people who have terms agreed, conciously or subconciously. You have to know them pretty well, and the item has to be pretty trivial.

If they miss it - ie they notice before you tell them - its stealing. If you know they will let you take it and won't mind you taking it without asking first, then you ask at the first opertunity - then its not. IMO

1/28/2006 1:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do this all the time even though I know it is wrong. I always try to ask first then accept the answer. but sometimes it is hard because the things I take are not very big things (food, chocolate).

I am learning to be a better asker.

1/29/2006 9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I'd call it stealing. As Callum said though, trivial things usually don't get most people in a tizzy. Sometimes what you thought was trivial really wasn't though. I have heard of instances where food was taken from a breakroom fridge and the victim had no money on their person to buy food that day. (Not trying to pick on you, Anica) So, it just depends on the circumstances and the truth is you can't know all the variables ahead of time.

Any instance of this sort of thing happening to me hasn't been significant enough for me to remember. Now, as for me doing the swiping...the ramifications also haven't been significant enough to me to remember. Can't say how the victims have felt though. Maybe some just never said anything, but were really pissed.

1/29/2006 10:01 AM  
Blogger Michelle said...

I think that most people who know me understand that there is an implicit permission already given of most anything that I have - if they need it then they are welcome to use it.

Without that, though, I think that people should generally make sure that they do have permission before using something that belongs to someone else.

I don't know that I consider it the exact same thing as stealing because the person has the intention of returning it and not keeping it but I'd certainly say that it is rude.

1/29/2006 9:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To me it is stealing. If someone were to use or borrow something that was mine with out my permission I would get made.

1/30/2006 10:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

INDEED,

Of course it's stealing because that person knows that it doesn't belong to them so they have no right to take it. I think that it's stealling even when it comes to family members.

I used to have my sister take my clothes all tha time. She says since she found them in my old room back home and not with me now she has every right to have them. That used to make me very irritable because she has no right to them.

Also since I'm in a group home you find that alot with the other five girls in the house. Soon you just have to learn to deal with it.

1/31/2006 8:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO ONE HAS EVER BORROWED ANYTHING FROM ME WITH OUT ASKING ME. SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE DONE TO ME.

2/01/2006 10:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you steal, you usually don't ask first! Same thing.

2/02/2006 2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If have a great realationship with them mabye not.But if you dont know them or dont like them then it is stealing.

2/28/2006 11:58 AM  

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